Jun 272014

(map via NOPD)

(map via NOPD)

A stray bullet that hit a woman stepping off the St. Charles Avenue streetcar last weekend was fired during a gun battle between two groups on a side street where New Orleans’ tourist community and street violence often clash, police said this week.

The woman, who was visiting New Orleans from out-of-town with a group of people, had stepped off the St. Charles Avenue streetcar near Erato Street around 11:50 p.m. Saturday (June 21) when she was hit in the hip by a bullet, said NOPD Commander Bob Bardy.

“The victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time,” said NOPD Sgt. Daniel Scanlan. “She gets off the streetcar and she’s standing there, when a gun battle breaks out down the street.”

Police found 27 .45-caliber shell casings on Erato closer to Carondelet, Scanlan said. The only video recovered so far appears to show two groups of two people each shooting at one another, Scanlan said, and investigators are trying to get the footage enhanced so it will be more useful to investigators.

Sixth District police were called to another shooting not far away on Danneel Street about 20 minutes after the St. Charles Avenue incident, and originally considered the possibility that the gun battle had simply moved locations, Bardy said. Investigators have since determined that the Danneel Street shooting was unrelated, possibly tied to a dispute between two men over a woman, Bardy said.

Saturday’s shooting was latest outbreak of gun violence on St. Charles near Erato Street. In 2012, two people were injured in a shooting during a Mardi Gras parade at the same intersection. During parades, police regularly make gun arrests there as well — such as in 2012, in both the first weekend and second weekend of parades in 2013, and again in 2014.

Bardy said Saturday’s shooting shows the need for participation in the new Safecam NOLA program that will create an index of private surveillance cameras around the city. Theoretically, Bardy said, such a system would allow investigators in the Sixth District station to track the suspects after they ran off on Erato Street, possibly finding a better image of them on the way.

Anyone who can help with the investigation is urged to call Sixth District detectives at 658-6060, or to call CrimeStoppers at 822-1111 to leave an anonymous tip that could be eligible for a cash reward.

  19 Responses to “St. Charles Avenue tourist was shot in crossfire of nearby “gun battle,” police say”

  1. Instead of more safecams how about locking up all the criminals? Just a thought.

    • Now that TOURISTS are being shot, instead of just us expendable residents: can we hope that real action might start being taken against violent crime?
      Pfvayda, you are absolutely correct!

  2. When does public health and safety override the 2nd amendment’s right to keep and bear “illegal guns.” What truly prevents a sweep of the neighborhood for illegal guns when the public health and safety is in peril. After all, police do a sweep of cars on any given night for simple proof of soberism.

    At the very least the NRA should provide firearms training to “at risk” youth. Better they hit their target head-on than have random bullets hit you while you are merrily riding the streetcar.

    • Are you really proposing no-knock warrantless searches? In other peoples’ neighborhoods and not your own, one assumes.

      • Assumptions make an ass of you and me, Mr. Romulus. Look on the crime map for the city – for the past year. My neighborhood certainly has had it’s rash of shootings – so yes, I am okay with a sweep of my neighborhood. There has to be a way to get rid of an easy way of killing innocents (that includes children). Please propose another way, Mr. Romulus.

    • There is no such thing as a right to bear “illegal guns” if the guns are illegal (which I’m sure they are in this instance) then they can be prosecuted for possession not to mention all of the other crimes committed. You can’t sweep a neighborhood for anything really. You are referring to “stop and frisk” which was fought against quite handily by some factions (not the NRA). It certainly cleaned up NYC in the 90’s, ruffled allot of feathers but crime dropped heavily.

  3. What I find most amazing is that there can be a gun battle in the street and no humans witness it, in Uptown New Orleans…really???

  4. Why did this take a WEEK to be reported? Friends in the neighborhood told me about it 20 minutes after it happened. This is the first mention anywhere.

  5. Mark, we reported on it the day after the shooting: http://uptownmessenger.com/2014/06/two-wounded-in-overnight-shootings-on-st-charles-avenue-danneel-street/

    Not as much detail was known at that point, however.

    • Thank you for your response.My friends told me that 14 casings had been recovered in front of their home and it didn’t match up to the reportage and made me think it was a different incident. I do get the UM in my e-mail daily. You do a fine job and please excuse my presumption. The street violence angers me so and I fear for our wonderful city.

  6. “The victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time”

    Yes, how dare she step onto one of the most famous streets in the country and expect to not get shot at. Silly woman, giving NOPD all this paperwork. All she had to do was stay locked in her hotel room.

  7. Blackonomic$
    The more money in creating careers and worth building in black owned businesses and communities would surely result in less criminal activity and desire to live the thug life. If leaders were equipped with resources to rebuild the more urban areas of town we would all reap the benefits. However the powers that be have not changes the plan in some time and we see where it’s gotten us.

    • Tell that to the previously elected mayor who tried to create a business for his family and now is paying for his thuggery.

    • finally, a thoughtful response.

    • I agree Jason, but think the problem is more complicated than just finding work. We do need the opportunity to build careers and community based business in all areas of the city. Just as important and maybe more so is the need to instill a sense of right and wrong and the need to get beyond violence to settle disputes or whatever it is that makes one person shoot another. But you are correct. We need to rebuild urban areas, get rid of blight and do something about the homelessness in our city. A tall order. And who is up to it? Our elected officials? Perhaps not but the people of the city need to push for more leadership. Or make a change.

    • these kids are 12 and 13 yrs old running around with guns they did not buy legally – they are not mature as that happens at 24 yrs. — after that they are just thugs – like Bonny and Clyde –
      the peer pressure for this age group is tremendous – and this age group is overwhelmingly large right now – the parents are not to blame as the kids do not let them know what is going on at that age – they are sneaking around – the parents have their interests on the baby and not the teens – I personally believe the parents are helpless because one or two peers in their kids group are not parented – well, this is just part of what I think and I would like to blame the parents but I can’t and I think they are disgusted with the situation too. When I was growing up belonging to a group was important and even going off to boarding school meant a group to want to be in – it happens to all of us I think – and unfortunately it is our problem today with our group of kids —

  8. 4 shooters. 27 rounds fired. One hit… on a tourist. The City loses again.

  9. It used to appear that the thugs could at least hit their desired targets.
    They actually thinned their own ranks. Darwin at work.
    But it now looks like they could not hit the broadside of a barn.

    27 rounds fired…and an innocent lady stepping off a streetcar is the only victim.
    Its sad on so many levels.

  10. I think the parents of these teens need to make it their duty to “stop and frisk” their kids whenever they leave the house – that age group is not thinking for the future or the consequences of killing –

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