Two men injured in shooting in Lower Garden District

Posted by Robert Morris at 7:13 pm crime, public safety

Mar 062013

Two men were both hit in their legs by gunshots Wednesday evening on Josephine Street in the Lower Garden District, authorities said.

The men, ages 27 and 28, were standing in the 500 block of Josephine around 6:45 p.m. when they heard gunshots and began to run, but each of the men were hit in their right legs, according to initial police reports. They were later listed in stable condition, the report states.

No further details were immediately available. The incident is not yet listed on NOPD crime maps, but the 500 block of Josephine is about a block from the intersection of Jackson and Tchoupitoulas.

Darrell Kocha

That isn’t LGD, that’s St. Thomas. The projects have been torn down, but anybody who’s gone to the Walmart on Tchoupitoulas can see the difference.
- http://twitter.com/AhContraire AhContraire
  
  This is the PROBLEM with New Orleans.
  
  There is so many differently named neighborhoods, residents think crime is not their problem when it’s not directly in their neighborhood. If a crime is on the other side of so and so intersection that is 5-10 minutes “walking” distance then it’s “NOT MY NEIGHBORHOOD” and it’s not my problem. Yet a week or two later there’s a early morning, afternoon robbery in YOUR neighborhood.
  
  FYI: Thugs/Criminals/Dealers are ABLE to walk 5-10 minutes as well as drive 5 minutes into THREE (3) different neighborhoods with ease in New Orleans.
  - banks mcclintock
    
    To AhContraire, people understand about how small New Orleans is. Statistics matter because that is how enforcement is decided i.e. number of patrol cars, number of passes etc. Additionally the facts have proven that even though “criminals” can walk 5-10 min they pretty much don’t. Turf protection and drug dealing related violence are usually block by block related and as our headline story proves these same few streets continue to have these exact same problems. It should be labeled as such.
    - http://twitter.com/AhContraire AhContraire
      
      If criminals pretty much don’t walk 5-10 minutes from their own “turf”, then why the need for a Garden District Security Force or any private police in NOLA?
      - banks mcclintock
        
        You bring up a different argument which is a red herring here. This wasn’t a robbery, a home invasion et or a shooting in another neighborhood. It was a shooting that happened in the HRI River Gardens. In fact, two people were shot in River Gardens. My point is that the reporting is incorrect. If something happens in the Treme you don’t report that it happened in the Quarter even though they are only separated by a street. No one said it wasn’t their problem, it simply should be labeled correctly. My larger question is that some think that there may a directive to “lessen” the number crime reports that are actually happening in RG by labeling them the LGD . There have been a number of incidents (shootings) that have occurred in River Garden and have been reported as such in the TP and then the words “River Garden” are edited and changed to LGD after the story is “published”.
      - http://twitter.com/AhContraire AhContraire
        
        Now why would the NOPD or the TP want to alter or affect the crime statistics to make certain sections of the city, like River Gardens look better?
        
        It they wanted to make New Orleans at least “look better” they would get rid of the panhandlers, homeless, those dirty brown clothed groups all across the city.
        
        Maybe they, NOPD and some in the TP, are all drug dealing and using. Hence, they are OK with the panhandlers and homeless as they are the “regular” paying drug addicts, i.e. “repeat customers”. And maybe they don’t want “blow” River Garden’s cover as a fancy place where “drugs deals” take place “discreetly”?
        
        It’s been known that lots of “journalists”, City Attorneys (e.g. drop joint in court room), and police are part of the drug problem.
      - http://twitter.com/AhContraire AhContraire
        
        Another thing. Look at City Hall. Ed Blakely thinks that 25% of those working in City Hall are functionally illiterate as they are taking “remedial courses”.
        
        And look at the NOPD. Serpas wants the force to NOT be the employer of “last resort”. And the District Attorney Cannizarro publicly said that the police in Orleans parish cannot write police reports like they do in Jefferson Parish.
        
        And then, look at the Times Picayune, at least the Online Edition. It’s amazing to see the number of basic English grammatical errors in their reporting in the years after Katrina.
        
        Also, has it seemed that the last 2 weeks, the NOLA.com weekend Online Edition hasn’t been regularly updated? Like there is no one working during the weekend over there?
        
        I would not be surprised that NOLA online is still cutting back as now they have less advertising from the daily printed. Advertisers are spending some of their dollars with the Advocate as that has a daily and also printed. Plus, it doesn’t appear to have a whitewashing of crime like you read in NOLA.com.
        
        By T-P going to only 3 days/wk, it forces readers to go online where they can more easily read from other sources of news as opposed to NOLA.com. Due to the changing readership demographics affecting the entire media industry, the T-P was forced to introduce their readers to the Competitors of NOLA.com.
        
        It’s been about 6 months of 3days/wk for the T-P printed? I bet they, the T-P, have a lot of CANCELLED subscriptions by now as it’s only 3 days/wk.
        
        If I was Uptown Msg, and those other smaller blogs dealing with crime, I would look at a format similar to say, USA Today, Digg, etc, using big photos. Right now the web engine they are using is almost too beginner blogger like. But then again, maybe it is?
      - uptanons
        
        This “shooting” is listed as an “assault” on New Orleans Crimemapping.com as reported by NOPD.
        It did indeed occur in River Garden and I’ve also noticed TP changing “River Garden” to “Lower Garden District” upon publishing stories.
- banks mcclintock
  
  Totally agree, the Rivers Gardens development did everything that they could to be unaffiliated with the Lower Garden District so they would not be held to the same zoning and property /HDLC standards and THEY WON. Esentially River Gardens was legally annexed from the LGD. They have their own security and their own crime stats. When these crimes are listed as LGD it skews the truth and actual statistics. TP and other news outlets seem to give this a pass and are now lumping the two together lowers the crime stats of River Gardens and unfairly raises crime stats of the LGD. Not to mention that this occurrence happened at the River Gardens development is extremely selective and poor reporting.
http://www.facebook.com/marisa.arrona Marisa Arrona

Is it possible to include cross streets in the reporting? The number of the block, along, really isn’t enough information for most people to know exactly where an event has occurred. I almost always have to look it up on Google maps. I’m not sure why cross streets aren’t standard in reporting, but is it possible to include in Uptown Messenger?
follyforte@yahoo.com

I live on the cross street with Josephine about 5 blocks north of where this happened. You’re right, I’ve heard my area labeled a gazillion different things geographically … Lower Garden District, Garden District, Irish Channel even and CBD! The truth is, I don’t really care about those labels if a news story draws attention to the fact I’ve got a lot of crazy crap continuing to happen close to my house. Dividing lines like these are invisible – they’re not keeping anyone from walking 5-10 minutes anywhere. So, I’m happy for the misnomers if they keep me informed.